<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?><!-- generator=Zoho Sites --><rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><channel><atom:link href="https://www.aheadcrm.co.nz/blogs/tag/Conversational-UI/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title>aheadCRM - Blog #Conversational UI</title><description>aheadCRM - Blog #Conversational UI</description><link>https://www.aheadcrm.co.nz/blogs/tag/Conversational-UI</link><lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 12:04:05 -0700</lastBuildDate><generator>http://zoho.com/sites/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Voice AI and Agentic Commerce: Your Personal Agent Rents Its Home From the Other Side of the Force]]></title><link>https://www.aheadcrm.co.nz/blogs/post/voice-ai-and-agentic-commerce-your-personal-agent-rents-its-home-from-the-other-side-of-the-force</link><description><![CDATA[<img align="left" hspace="5" src="https://www.aheadcrm.co.nz/CRMKonvo -315 - Dan Miller Voice AI.png"/>Every wave of customer-facing technology arrives with the same promise: this time the balance of power shifts toward the customer. As we discussed in ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_s71x4ZwBQBKHdp-ZpQ9OPg" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer-fluid zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_Ck3vMenJStSRC9nHaPJysw" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zprow-container zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- " data-equal-column=""><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_CUke2TqQSRy0fs-A4wI7pg" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_YwZrZMJZTGmOTyTtyx87Aw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align-center zptext-align-mobile-center zptext-align-tablet-center " data-editor="true"><div><p>Every wave of customer-facing technology arrives with the same promise: this time the balance of power shifts toward the customer. As we discussed in our recent <a href="https://youtube.com/live/2IQVkY2IVgU">CRMKonvo</a> with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danmiller/">Dan Miller</a>, founder and analyst emeritus of <a href="https://opusresearch.net/">Opus Research</a>, voice AI is making that promise again, and this time both sides of the counter are armed. The more interesting questions are where the customer's weapon is kept, who pays its rent, and who gets to whisper to it while it works.</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading">TL;DR</h2><p>If you want to watch the full CRMKonvo, please go ahead <a href="https://youtube.com/live/kLux3U4sW6U">here</a> (optimized for smartphones) or <a href="https://youtube.com/live/2IQVkY2IVgU">here</a> (optimized for tablets/computers).</p><p><img src="/CRMKonvo%20-315%20-%20Dan%20Miller%20Voice%20AI.png"/><br/></p><figure class="wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio"><div class="wp-block-embed__wrapper">https://youtube.com/live/2IQVkY2IVgU</div>
</figure><p>Else, be my guest and continue to read.</p><p>Or do both …</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading">Automated Voice Was Never Built for You</h2><p>Dan has watched this market almost from its beginning, and he is blunt about its origin. Automated voice entered the contact center &quot;<em>almost entirely for cost savings</em>&quot;. Everything after that was repair work: better speech recognition, task-specific tuning for finance and travel, and a long campaign to make a system optimized for cost do a passable impression of service.</p><p>The same instinct shows up in voice analytics. Once recordings could be mined, the first trigger enterprises asked for was a competitor's name, then a churn score. The retention arithmetic was well known; it’s roughly six times cheaper to keep a customer than to win one, and the wisdom that followed &quot;<em>got distilled into a few rules</em>&quot;. Detect the person about to leave, offer them something.</p><p>In blunt words: the industry learned to close the door, not to fix the room. Nothing about generative AI repeals that. It runs the same rules faster, on more data, with better grammar.</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading">The Same Data, Two Completely Different Businesses</h2><p>Proverbially, technology is neutral and the intent behind the listening is not. Reading and analyzing a customer's conversations to make the customer the means to get revenue and reading them to make the customer successful with revenue as the consequence, are two mindsets that produce very different decisions from identical data.</p><p>Dan looks for the win-win and argues the crossover point is real: &quot;<em>successful firms do a better job of not exploiting their customers</em>&quot;, and you cannot save your way into profitability. In a contestable market he is right. The trouble is how many markets are not. Starlink raises prices for the stated reason that it can, retires a plan and sells the stranded customers a dearer one. Banks make you dependent first and negotiate second; try collecting your wages in a brown envelope this year. Volkswagen shipped an ID.7 with a single set of rear window switches and a toggle to choose which window you are operating, because somebody found a few cents in the parts list.</p><p>None of that is a data problem, and no conversational layer fixes it. There are two ways to make a profit: by making me successful, or by making sure I make you successful. They are not mutually exclusive, but the slider between them is set by the executive, not by the model.</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading">Your Personal Agent Has a Landlord</h2><p>Dan's constructive answer is quite interesting. Build your own agent: one that knows your preferences, your payment methods, your preferred vendors, and goes into the market with your horsepower rather than the vendor's. Assume everyone else is a wolf. &quot;<em>I want this thing that is all mine and I can do battle on a better than even playing field.</em>&quot;</p><p>He named both problems himself. The first is assembly. The people extracting real value from these tools are already technologists; everyone else gets a chat window. Do I buy the Mac with Apple silicon so I can run my own model? We have had the conceptual framework for a voice agent on a smartphone since Siri in 2009: seventeen years of the same slide, still no delivery.</p><p>The second problem is structural. <a href="https://blog.tobira.ai/ai-agent-act-federal-registry-voluntary-trust/">Draft regulation in the United States</a> already assumes a trusted, custodial user agent hosted on somebody's infrastructure: Google, Apple, your card issuer. Dan sees the consequence clearly: &quot;<em>there would be room for my agent to be influenced by these entities that don't have my best interest at heart</em>.&quot; Preferential placement, promotional dollars, ad support, and then the slow <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification">enshittification</a> Cory Doctorow named.</p><p>This is not speculation, it is a rerun. Social media was sold on exactly this rebalancing. The consumer held control right up until vendors understood what the tools were worth and bought the position back, because they had the funds. An agent you do not host is an agent you do not own.</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading">If Agents Talk to Agents, Voice Shrinks to the Handoff</h2><p>Here is my question for the voice AI market. If agent-to-agent commerce becomes the mainstream, why would two digital agents converse in a human language at all? Voice then survives only at the two edges: where I express intent, and where the result is handed back to me.</p><p>Dan broadly agrees. Ninety percent can be machine to machine and invisible; the remainder is rendered as speech, because it is the most natural interface for a human. Which is awkward, because the edges are exactly where voice has always broken. Ralf raised the automatic barista a Swiss food company built eight years ago: superb coffee, a microphone and speaker on the front, no chance of surviving a vandalised station concourse. Demo quality is not operational quality. Dialects, background noise and the oldest failure of all, which Dan still states best: &quot;<em>The last thing you want is going around and around because it didn't understand you.</em>&quot;</p><p>The evidence on convenience is decades old and nobody likes it. Amtrak ran one of the first automated phone booking systems, and users programmed the touch tones into their speed dials. The fastest route through the voice system was not talking. Meanwhile customers consistently choose to sit on hold for a human rather than deal with the automation. That is a revealed preference, measured over thirty years, and it has barely moved. The reason is simple: The systems are designed about the company’s wants, and not the customers’.</p><p>Dan's engineering answer is the unglamorous one: list the ways the thing will fail, find the three to six modes that cause ninety percent of the failures, and fix those. It is the right answer. It is also not what the current round of voice demos is tuned for.</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading">Intent Fulfilment Is the Only Meaningful Metric That Can Be Used By the Vendor</h2><p>Dan's ice maker stopped working. He photographed the model plate, asked an LLM, got a wrong answer, sent more pictures, and eventually landed on unplugging the unit for thirty seconds. It worked. No ticket, no 800 number, no technician, no survey. Service happened and the manufacturer has no record that it did. Existing service delivery infrastructure, in Dan's words the people, the systems and the documentation, is what LLMs will eat.</p><p>Which is why the argument in <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlieberman/">Mitch Lieberman's</a> forthcoming book, The Conversation is the Record, matters more than the agent hype around it. Put the conversation, with the context wrapped around it, into the system of record across every channel, and you can finally ask the one question worth asking. Dan's lightning-round metric was exactly that: intent fulfilment. Commitment made, commitment kept.</p><p>One can argue that a fulfilled commitment is not a finished job, because commitment doesn’t necessarily cover the intent. It still beats everything currently on the dashboard. Handle time, containment, deflection rate and NPS all measure how the enterprise felt about the interaction. Intent fulfilment measures whether the customer got what they came for, and it produces an auditable list of promises the company did not keep. That is precisely why no vendor is rushing to sell you the scoreboard.</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading">Pragmatic Playbook for Enterprise CX Buyers</h2><p>Asked who gains more influence over the next three years, Dan was honest: in his world, customers; in the real world, a standoff. Standoffs are decided by preparation.</p><p>For enterprise technology leaders evaluating Voice AI and agentic platforms, the market is currently a minefield of over-promised capabilities and hidden architectural debt. To avoid making a costly mistake, buyers must ground their strategy in three core operational rules:</p><p><strong>Demand Intent Fulfillment Metrics, Not Deflection Rates</strong>. Stop measuring your CX success by how many calls your Voice AI prevents from reaching your contact center. Deflection is a cost-center metric that frequently masks customer frustration. Instead, instrument your systems to track commitment resolution: did the AI correctly capture the user's intent, trigger the appropriate backend API, and resolve the issue end-to-end? If your AI cannot execute real-world workflows inside your ERP and CRM systems, do not deploy it to customer-facing channels.</p><p><strong>Decouple Conversational Data from Proprietary Vendors</strong>. Do not allow your Voice AI or contact-center-as-a-service (CCaaS) vendor to lock your interaction data inside their black box. Implement vendor-neutral conversational data standards such as <a href="https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-vcon-overview-00.html">vCons</a>. Containerizing your audio, text, and metadata ensures that you retain full ownership of your customer interaction history. This allows you to audit AI performance objectively, feed pristine context into your RAG pipelines, and switch underlying LLM providers as better models emerge without losing your historical memory.</p><p><strong>Establish Frictionless Human Escalation with Full Context</strong>. AI agents must never become digital dead ends. Design your conversational architecture so that the moment an agent detects intent ambiguity, user frustration, or an out-of-bounds request, the interaction transfers immediately to a human agent. Crucially, the human representative must receive the complete (Vcon container) transcript and real-time intent summary instantly, eliminating the infuriating customer experience of having to repeat information to a human that was already given to a bot.</p><p>Listening is cheap. Keeping your promise is the product.</p></div></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div> ]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 13:06:28 -0400</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Salesforce, Slack, Facebook, Kustomer - the big epiphany]]></title><link>https://www.aheadcrm.co.nz/blogs/post/salesforce-slack-facebook-kustomer-the-big-epiphany</link><description><![CDATA[In the last few days two really interesting acquisitions caught my eye. The obvious one that hardly could be missed, is Slack being acquired by Salesf ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm__BCLzZyhQqixokHpapn7gQ" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer-fluid zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_b0oup9hORw2D71JH8LnhMw" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zprow-container zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- " data-equal-column=""><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_Cw_JcxrARMyyygpg_LRH0g" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_lHIRsdXLTOyuJnJP1euazw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align-center " data-editor="true"><div><p>In the last few days two really interesting acquisitions caught my eye. The obvious one that hardly could be missed, is <a href="https://slack.com/blog/news/salesforce-signs-definitive-agreement-to-acquire-slack">Slack being acquired by Salesforce</a> for a whopping $27.7 bn, which, to put it into perspective, is $2.2 bn more than Salesforce forecasts as its revenue for the upcoming fiscal year.</p><p>The other interesting acquisition is social network behemoth <a href="https://about.fb.com/news/2020/11/kustomer-to-join-facebook/">Facebook plucking up Kustomer</a>, a five-year-old company with origins in customer service. What is interesting about Kustomer is that the company promotes managing customer service from the customer (hence the name) angle and not coming from the ticket as the main entity. Kustomer has since positioned itself more into the CRM area, but still with a focus on service “CRM for customer service” and also implemented an AI to help with routing and the end-to-end handling of (simple) cases by chat bots.</p><p>Digging a little further, one can find that <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/11/snap-acquired-voca-ai-which-makes-ai-based-voice-agents-for-call-centers-for-120m/">Snapchat also recently acquired voca.ai</a>, another tech company that specializes in serving natural, human-like conversations.</p><h1>Salesforce acquires Slack</h1><p>I have already covered <a href="https://aheadcrm.blogspot.com/2020/11/salesforce-in-acquistion-talks-with.html">the acquisition of Slack by Salesforce</a>, and so have many other analysts. Thinking a little longer about it, yes, Slack gives Salesforce capabilities that so far only Microsoft can offer, albeit the balance of Salesforce’s productivity suite (acquired with Quip) is no match for Microsoft Office. Using both, MS Teams and Slack, I think that, with all its deficiencies, MS Teams has functional advantages over Slack. And it comes as part of MS 365 (formerly known as MS Office).</p><p>On the other hand, Slack as part of Salesforce is giving Salesforce customers that are not yet committed to a collaboration platform a choice. This is especially true, if Slack comes as part of the package, i.e. without an own price tag. The latter is something that I doubt, looking at Slack being on an ARR of around $1 bn and growing, and purchased at nearly $28 bn, but let’s see.</p><p>But then, Slack gives Salesforce an edge over SAP and Oracle, neither of which has a comparable offer. Oracle has a strategic partnership with Zoom, which places them high in the video collaboration arena, while SAP has Jam and a strategic partnership with Microsoft.</p><p>What Slack mainly provides Salesforce with are two things:</p><ul><li>A leg into the SMB market.</li><li>A conversational UI that offers text, voice, video along with searchable file sharing capabilities.</li></ul><h1>Facebook acquires Kustomer</h1><p>At about the same time, Facebook acquired Kustomer. Kustomer was founded around the idea of offering better customer service. This shall be achieved by providing agents better insight into the customer and by making the customer and the conversations with the customer the leading entities. These conversations can happen on arbitrary communication channels. This is in contrast to the traditional way of placing the incident at the centre and referencing the customer to it. To round this off, Kustomer also developed intelligent routing and a chatbot solution that help routing those incidents that are not deflected by the chatbot to the right agent.</p><p>You do wonder why a company like Facebook needs a customer service solution?</p><p>Well, as <a href="https://twitter.com/ingridlunden">Ingrid Lunden</a> also wrote in her readable <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/30/facebook-confirms-it-has-acquired-kustomer-sources-say-for-1b/">article on TechCrunch</a>, Facebook makes a sizeable business with companies that have a good deal of their, oftentimes the only, digital identity on Facebook and Facebook owned platforms. These are also regularly interacting with their customers via Facebooks messenger or via WhatsApp. According to Facebook’s own <a href="https://about.fb.com/news/2020/11/kustomer-to-join-facebook/">press release</a>, there are currently more than 175 million people who contact businesses via WhatsApp. Up to now, these businesses used, and can continue to use, third party services for customer interactions. Now they can use a Facebook owned service, too.</p><p>So, the value of Kustomer for Facebook is twofold:</p><ul><li>It can bring additional revenue streams, directly by the customer service offering, and indirectly, by making it easier for Kustomer customers to create advertisements on Facebook</li><li>Facebook can capitalize on the increasing trend towards conversational user interfaces</li></ul><h1>The common theme</h1><p>What do these seemingly different acquisitions have in common?</p><p>Both of them revolve around conversations as an important way of interaction between people. This is the natural continuation of texting and messaging having entered the mainstream some years ago, at first in consumer applications, and then more and more in business applications, too.</p><p>As I have written in my article about what can be done to <a href="https://aheadcrm.blogspot.com/2020/10/salesreps-still-hate-their-crm-heres.html">make sales people not hate their CRM</a> system, one key ingredient is to make the system “speak with people”, i.e. offer a communication channel that is natural for people and reduces the friction between the communication parties as much as possible (or at least does not create unnecessary additional ones). These communication channels are text and voice, and this preference is, of course, not limited to salespeople.</p><p>Or, as Shane Murphy-Reuter, SVP Marketing at Intercom, puts it: “Messengers are how we communicate in our daily lives. They’re also transforming how colleagues communicate at work and are increasingly becoming the primary channel between businesses and customers. Consumers prefer messengers because they’re fast, friendly and personal. The shift toward conversational technologies is accelerating because messengers help businesses build strong relationships with their customers by providing a friendly, quick and easy customer experience that’s just like a face-to-face conversation and makes online communication feel much more personal.”</p><p>What does this mean?</p><p>This is a question that goes far beyond the immediate consequences for Slack- or Kustomer customers.</p><h1>The conversation is the new UI</h1><p>These acquisitions show the acknowledgement of a trend that in my eyes has reached a tipping point. Customers – people – want to communicate with businesses and their representatives in a way that is natural to humans. They expect businesses offering this capability.</p><p>The necessary communication channels exist since the advent of social media and mobiles becoming mainstream. Technologies that help businesses scaling communications are there, too. Chatbots and conversational AI’s are coming of age and are maturing rapidly.</p><p>Businesses leaders who have not yet started to offer conversational user interfaces to customers (and employees alike) need to act fast in order to keep pace with the demand for this type of user interface. They need to start implementations on limited but relevant scale, learn and grow from there.</p><p>Vendors need to build, buy or partner to offer convincing own conversational capabilities throughout their solution stack, starting from where it matters most (to their customers). Missing out on this will have a negative impact on their relevance going forward.</p><p>The conversation is the new UI. Are you prepared for it?</p></div></div>
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